Here are two excellent blog posts that support my point: How Google Killed Affiliate Marketing by Aaron Wall, and In Links We Trust - How Google Reshaped the Web by Digital Ghost. These are well worth the read.
Sources: V7N Search Marketing Blog and Threadwatch respectively.
Of course the given in here is you have to deliver the goods in the form of good search results. Some requirements:
1. Relevant results: you cannot deliver crap. Relevence is decided by the public users . With that said you really do not need to beat Google on relevency only match them.
2. Your own index: using somebody elses search index won't do, it has to be your own index.
3. Fresh: The index needs to be regularly and constantly updated so as not to be stale.
4. Size: It has to be a big index and you have to be agressive about finding new pages to spider.
5. Agressive and deep spidering: You have to index dynamic url's and do so agressively.
But after doing that you can carve out a niche and do some proper marketing and you can probably take some significant market share away from Google.
For index and algo quality I think Yahoo could pull this off. 'Live' is not there yet and neither is Ask.
How About a Shopping Search for where goods are made?
I got to looking at shopping search engines like NexTag, Yahoo Shopping and Ask Shopping and most of these are set up to find the lowest price retailers. Why can't I search for, let's say, "socks" and restrict it to socks "Made in USA"? I just might buy American made socks.
I think I might like to try using such a search engine. If one exists please let me know.
Technorati
IceRocket
Clusty Blog Search
Google Blog Search
Ask.com Blog Search
(I'm disappointed Yahoo discontinued their blog search, because I remember liking it at the time it launched.)
Are there any other blog searches I should be looking at? What do you use and why do you like it? Do you use several blog search engines and , if so, which ones?
The interesting part is that the core of Cranky is a directory of 5000 sites the Cranky editors have identified as being useful and of interest to age 50+ people. I'm not sure who is providing backfill results for when there is nothing in the directory to match a query but somebody has to, I cannot imagine a search engine being considered relevant for very long with only 5000 or even 500,000 sites indexed in this day and age. I can see giving pages from those 5,000 core sites preference in the SERP's.
To eliminate confusion, Cranky only gives 4 results on the first page of the SERP's. Personally I find this annoying, but this allegedly is to minimize overwhelming aging boomers with too much info.
From a business angle Cranky is a good idea: aiming a search site at a marketing demographic rather than a subject or geographic area since it will be easier to sell advertising to Madison Avenue traditional ad agencies that way.
The two parts that particularly interest me is 1.) the targeting of a marketing demographic (ie. aging baby boomers), with what is really a directory (here I was just saying directories are dead (silly me)) which I find exciting and a good idea for niche directories, and 2.) finding out which search engine is providing search backfill (un-human edited or ranked results) if any, for the Cranky search engine.
Source: Search Engine Land
So everyone is coming out
with lists, predictions and report cards, at the risk
of being a "me too" I'll post my own opinion of the
Big Four search engines.
First, I divide search engines into two broad
categories: 1. Stand Alone index, this means that the
search engine's own index is big enough and the algo
is good enough that you can use it alone; 2.
Meta-Search quality, the index and algo are not quite
good enough to use as your only search engine but are
good enough to use as part of a meta-search engine.
Major Search
Engines -
Google: Stand Alone. While I
don't thing the index is nearly as fresh or as
relevant as it once was, Google is still the
standard by which all other search engines are
judged. What I do like about Google is that they
still tend to favor what they think are content
sites over commercial sites if possible.
Yahoo: Stand Alone. Yahoo is
the only other search engine that really can be
used alone for searching. Yahoo seems to favor
commercial sites slightly in ranking, which is
good if you are shopping or searching for
products, but can be annoying when searching for
information. Still it is a quality index.
MSN/Live: Meta-search quality.
MSN has one of the freshest indexes and most
aggressive spiders in the search engine world. I
like that they still give significant weight to
on-page factors in ranking, and they are not
totally dependent on link popularity schemes.
Unfortunately, this leaves them open to spam. I
think their quality is slowly improving and
hopefully MSN will find a happy balance between
on-page and off-page ranking factors. MSN is great
to have in a meta-search engine because of the
freshness and aggressive spidering.
Ask: Meta-search quality.
I think Ask is getting close to Stand Alone
status, but their index is still smallish, not as
fresh as I'd like and their spider is much too
timid to deeply spider sites, especially dynamic
sites, so it is missing lots of pages of content.
Still they have not got there in 2006 but I have
hopes they can spider better in the near future.
Minor Search
Engines -
Exalead - Meta-search quality.
This French based engine is impressive and has a
nice interface. Personally I like it a lot.
However, on commercially competitive searches it
still ranks too many spammy sites highly. Good as
a secondary engine in a meta-search.
Gigablast - Meta-search quality.
I think Gigablast should be included as a
secondary engine in any self respecting
meta-search. Gigablast will dig up and rank some
good sites the majors overlook which makes it
valuable.
Wisenut - Meta-Search quality.
Wisenut has good relevancy, but not very fresh
index. Good to have in a meta-search because, like
Gigablast, it digs up and ranks some good sites
the others miss.
Note: I use Ask, MSN, Gigablast and Wisenut
indirectly every day for searching as part of
Clusty meta-search, my default
search engine. Those engines seem to do a good job
for Clusty and other meta-search engines. When I
need to dig deeper into a topic than a meta-search
can provide, I use Yahoo and some directories like
dmoz.org.
The scary part of this whole report card is that with
the exception of relative newcomer Exalead, the
report card is pretty much the same as it has been
for the last few years. I think we might be
stagnating badly in the search engine web index
industry.
Jimmy Wales, the founder
of Wikipedia announced that he is working on a new
type of search engine sometimes called "Wikiasari"
or Wikia Search.
It sounds to me that he hopes to
somehow combine social networking and social
editing like Wikipedia with a deep spidering
search engine. Frankly, despite heckles from SEO's, it sounds
like a noble goal.
Will it be a
Google-killer?
Well the odds are against it, but that does not mean
a worthwhile, usable and commercially self-sustaining
major search engine cannot come out of this project.
A lot of average Internet users, that I know
personally use Wikipedia as a starting point in their
searches so it is not unreasonable for Wikia Search
to gain a following from traffic fed by Wikipedia.
I'm trying to ponder what Wikia Search will look
like. A lot of people think Wikia Search will not
scale, and that is true if you are rely only on
humans to index the web. But if you also incorporate
a unreviewed spidered index and a very good ranking
algo then I think it can scale much better - if you
keep that index fresh.
I'm a directory guy and while I recognize directories
are fast becoming obsolete I have always thought that
combining a human edited index of quality sites with
a spidering engine on a large scale would be
interesting proposition. Of course, Yahoo and NBCi
used to do this years ago, but if you can actually
spider the pages of the sites that have been human
reviewed and broaden the participation in the human
review process from just a few editors to a bigger
base it might help. But it depends on how you do it:
back in the old days when Searchking was trying to build a
real search index it relied on human voting to
determine relevancy, but since only a tiny
percentage of users ever voted it rendered that
ranking scheme almost useless. The lesson there is
that most people just want to get find their
information and leave in as few clicks as possible
so very few are going to stop and vote of edit
unless it directly benefits a basic need. That is
something the Wikia people need to keep in mind
because it almost invites spammers to game the
system. Chris Sherman has more on
social search.
I think the bottom line is, we still need some
innovation in search engines, and we still need more
major search engines with their own indexes than just
the Big Four. Five major search engines would be
better and six would be better still, especially if
that will siphon off users from Google which controls
too much of the search traffic right now. If Wikia
Search can do it then I'm all for it.
Source: SEORoundtable
Oh, goody, I thought it
was only me, but Danny Sullivan helps
explain that most site owners
see 70% or more of their search engine traffic
coming from Google. That too has been my
experience across most of my sites, although I
have to admit as time goes on I actually do less
and less optimization on all my sites, the numbers
for Google traffic remain at about 70%+. Sigh.
In my own experience, traffic from general
directories has almost disappeared. Years ago there
was a time when Dmoz and Google directory delivered a
lot of traffic in their own right. I still get some
traffic from niche directories but I'm wondering if
niche directories aren't also becoming just a
sideline. Surprisingly I still get a goodly amount of
direct click traffic from all those link pages that
webmasters build on their sites and that most SEO's
claim are worthless. Search engine's might discount
those pages but people still find them useful.
Finally I still get fair traffic to my various niche
portals from StumbleUpon, so obviously surfing
is not dead.
(Note: None of this applies to this blog or this
domain (talmir.info) which I don't do any promoting
or optimizing for and which I let spread strictly via
WOM. That is pretty much on purpose just to see how
traffic grows organically.)
I noticed a link on
Michael's sidebar to the
Snap search
engine, which was enough to
make me give it another look. The results I get on
Snap are actually fairly good. Hmm this deserves
watching. I see there is a way to submit a URL for
inclusion but it is not clear if Snap is
maintaining their own database or using one of
their partners and are really a meta
search engine.
One problem is that the site does not work all that
well with the OmniWeb browser, which becomes a
problem although it seems to be well behaved in
browsers that share the Firefox rendering engine.
Anyway I'll try to test this over the coming months
and give you some sort of impression.
*Snap.com (II) designates the current incarnation of
Snap as a search engine. Originally Snap.com was a
directory several years ago.
So my old rather
disreputable "trucker" style cap finally fell apart
due to advanced age, so I thought I would replace it
with a search engine logo cap. I went
looking for search engine gear
to buy from the major search engines and was
shocked
to find that only Google has
a functioning gear
store! This gives Google a
virtual monopoly on the gear front, not because
they are better but because the other search
engines have dropped the ball and IMO they ought
to be ashamed of themselves.
Yahoo - first up on the shame list is
Yahoo Gear
Store. Jeez how lame is
that. Forget peanut butter memos, this yahoo gear
store has been closed since before June of
2005! Yahoo, if you want to
compete with Google then you have to work on that
attention span thing and show some pride.
Ask.com - Personally I like the Ask logo. So I was
hoping to find a black ball cap with the Ask logo on
it. Ask doesn't even have a store. Besides it looking
cool I figured having "Ask" on my cap might be a
good conversation flirting opener with
chicks at parties when they ask me what they are
supposed to ask me.
See there is a whole domino effect
here due to gear failure!
MSN/Live - I searched but found no store. Frankly, I
was not keen on having a butterfly on a cap anyway.
Okay by now I was getting desperate...
Even venerable portals like Excite or Lycos had no
gear, nor did newcomers Clusty, Exalead or Gigablast.
What about the directories? Dmoz.org was a bust. The
little Mozilla mascot might have looked cool but no
dice. So far only Uncoverthenet
has
gear, but no hats.
Man, all I wanted was to buy a cool looking search
engine cap that didn't say Google - is that too much
to ask? Damn. You can't compete if you quit the
field.
Listening to ''I'll Be Home For Christmas'', by Frank
Sinatra (Play Count: 14)
Source: SearchGuild
Just thinking.
The Paris-based World Association of Newspapers, whose members include dozens of national newspaper trade bodies, said it is exploring ways to "challenge the exploitation of content by search engines without fair compensation to copyright owners."
Full story at Editor and Publisher.
There have been rumbles and it was just a matter of time.
Which would make sense for Google to buy a company like Napster, in order to get into the digital music business, rather than try to build it from scratch.
The search engines (one of which I work for) would rather that paid links be tagged with a rel="nofollow" attribute to indicate that any "link juice" or authority shouldn't be passed on to that site.
The problem here is I hate the way the search engines, particularly Google, control the debate on this issue. (Disclaimer: I sell all my advertising on all my sites through Adbrite which gives no link juice.) But webmasters ignore warnings from Google's Matt Cutts at their peril.
Here is my opinion:
Right or wrong has little to do with this issue, this is about Google being threatened by any artificial manipulation of linking. They can and will use their raw power to protect their turf. Webmasters may have the right to sell any kind of link they want but Google will probably do bad things to you if you do.
Google simply has too much market and mind share to be ignored. Ultimately they will fail to hold back the tide on artificial link inflation and their index will degrade (IMO it already has.) I also think that selling ads on a site per-click, like Adsense, does not favor the site owner because the advertisers still get branding value off the ad impressions even if there is no click and the webmaster is not getting paid for that by Google.




